Time attack Round 5 2008@ S13 CA18DET powered

[Turbin_Powa]

Hola, hace una semana estuve en UK en la ronda 5 del time attack en el circuito de Brands Hatch, y curiosamente me encontre con un S13 de 425cv que se movia como pez en el agua con competidores que le doblavan la cilindrada y potencia.
Os dejo un video para que lo veais en accion, en breve abrire un post con fotos y algun video mas.
Saludos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAdcHbshuh8

[InOt]

Menudo pote xD

[Turbin_Powa]

El record estuvo en casi 50 segundos del subi ganador con 820cv....

[S13_Palau]

fijo que lleva un sr20 por que el ca18 no da mas, a no que es un ca18
CA18DET POWA!!

[angel200sxmallorca]

XDD...pero q dices time attack...los silvias sólo sirven para ir de lado. ;)

Otro video más para amenizar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppy1nxc8Q8Q

[Turbin_Powa]

Un video del buga en cuestion:

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=pLmtBwNI7NY

[minotauro]

impresionantes los videos me encanta como suena ese s-13 en el primer video...:badgrin:

[angel200sxmallorca]

Para el q esté interesado en saber las mods q lleva:

http://www.sxoc.co.uk/vbb/showthread.php?t=240135

Casi na, y si buscáis en el sxoc los otros poryectos de Apex tmb tienen otro S13 q ronda los 475cvs más otro S14 de 700cvs, un skylline de chorrocientos mil, etc, etc...lo normal vamos. XDDD.

[alejandroJDM]

en esa web tambien he visto un s13 rb26dett powa!!!:D:D


salu2

[Turbin_Powa]

Para el q esté interesado en saber las mods q lleva:

http://www.sxoc.co.uk/vbb/showthread.php?t=240135

Casi na, y si buscáis en el sxoc los otros poryectos de Apex tmb tienen otro S13 q ronda los 475cvs más otro S14 de 700cvs, un skylline de chorrocientos mil, etc, etc...lo normal vamos. XDDD.

Como se nota que nos empollamos el sxoc angel :D, merci por por los datos, asi me gusta colaborando ;)

[rob_br_91]

Ese s13 debe pegarse hasta en las paredes y no miro a nadie...drifters jajajajja

[SM@SXOC]

Very Glad you liked my S13 on track, I'm not sure about being like a fish, maybe its in the translation.

Estoy contento que te gusto me S13 en el circuito de Brands Hatch. No estoy seguro que se mueve como un pez. Quizas he perdido algo en traducir al ingles.


200SX's are just good for drifting, the predictable handling makes for a good circuit car.

Los 200SXs nadamas que sirven para drifting. El coche facil de manejar y eso es lo que lo hace un coche bueno para el circuito.

It is very nice to drive on track, and is nice mixing it with the high power and Tuner cars in the UK.

Es un coche que es bueno de conducir en un circuito, y es agradable de mezclarlo con los coches de alta potencia y de "Tuner" en el Rein Unido.

Here is a graph of the power.

heres graphs,the loop is because it was that part when car pulls hard on dyno straps.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/APT/dyno%20graphs/fly.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/APT/dyno%20graphs/wheels.jpg



minotauro (http://www.clubjapo.com/foro/member.php?u=13257) - thank you :D Gracias




Some photos for you guys

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/Nismomark/Time%20Attack/IMG_8567a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/Nismomark/Time%20Attack/IMG_8573a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/Nismomark/Time%20Attack/IMG_8582a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/Nismomark/Time%20Attack/IMG_8603a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/Nismomark/Time%20Attack/IMG_8908a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/Nismomark/Time%20Attack/IMG_8909a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/Nismomark/Time%20Attack/IMG_8919a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/Nismomark/Time%20Attack/IMG_8924a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/Nismomark/Time%20Attack/IMG_8932a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/Nismomark/Time%20Attack/IMG_8944a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/Nismomark/Time%20Attack/IMG_8948a.jpg

[Turbin_Powa]

Very Glad you liked my S13 on track, I'm not sure about being like a fish, maybe its in the translation.

Estoy contento que te gusto me S13 en el circuito de Brands Hatch. No estoy seguro que se mueve como un pez. Quizas he perdido algo en traducir al ingles.


200SX's are just good for drifting, the predictable handling makes for a good circuit car.

Los 200SXs nadamas que sirven para drifting. El coche facil de manejar y eso es lo que lo hace un coche bueno para el circuito.

It is very nice to drive on track, and is nice mixing it with the high power and Tuner cars in the UK.

Es un coche que es bueno de conducir en un circuito, y es agradable de mezclarlo con los coches de alta potencia y de "Tuner" en el Rein Unido.

Here is a graph of the power.





minotauro (http://www.clubjapo.com/foro/member.php?u=13257) - thank you :D Gracias

Hi SM!!!
Welcome to the clubjapo forum, this is a 100% JDM forum, and is a pleasure you posting here!!!
The comment i say "se mueve como pez en el agua" it meant that your car is very fast in spite of having a small motor but and much less power than the rest of cars.
I am a s13 200sx owner and have same a gt2871R and 256 8'5 lift, but the engine have rebuilding with forged internals.
Congratulations for your project, and here in spain have one fan :D, and i wish all the luck you of the world and hope that in the next round you surprise the most powerful cars.
Un saludo ;)

[SM@SXOC]

I am a s13 200sx owner and have same a gt2871R and 256 8'5 lift, but the engine have rebuilding with forged internals.

Last year I had the GT2871R and 256 cams @ 390bhp, 7400rpm.
This year I have the GT2876R and 270 cams @ 425bhp, 8000rpm.

Wiscoe pistons, Apex con-rods, Cometic head gasket, Tomei cams, PPG Dog box, KSport Brakes, Apex Coilovers :biggrinbounce:

If I had the money I would build a 2.2L SR22DET with Top mounted GT35R, similar to the one posted in this thread, although that's a SR24DET! So if anyone knows where I can get €15000 sponsorship from for 2009 please shout!

[Turbin_Powa]

Last year I had the GT2871R and 256 cams @ 390bhp, 7400rpm.
This year I have the GT2876R and 270 cams @ 425bhp, 8000rpm.

Wiscoe pistons, Apex con-rods, Cometic head gasket, Tomei cams, PPG Dog box, KSport Brakes, Apex Coilovers :biggrinbounce:

If I had the money I would build a 2.2L SR22DET with Top mounted GT35R, similar to the one posted in this thread, although that's a SR24DET! So if anyone knows where I can get €15000 sponsorship from for 2009 please shout!
Hi mate!!!
This is a fun engine!!!
I have rebuilding my engine with arias pistons and eagle con-rods, the front brakes are from cadillac cts (the same calipers of the subaru STI 2005, and the 350z) and rear vented discs and calipers from z32. But i have problems with the stock brake oil pump and will fit the z32 brake oil pump.
The SR20 is a great engine, but are you thinking in a RB25DET engine? the weight is similar of the SR20 engine compares with the CA18 light weitgh engine, and i think the s13 will be a kick ass subis and evos with this engine :D
The sponsorship in spain is very dificult to find, because the tuner culture is basically to putty the cars and to make ugly monsters of them, almost nobody makes tuned engines, and at the moment there is no championship with the exception of the championship of GT of Spain, where ferraris and the lambos run rich people. if your like in the next round i can help to you change wheels or what you want :D

[S13_Palau]

Wellcome to the club SM@SXOC ;)
Very nice you'r S13 ;)
I've another S13 Ca18det powered.

[InOt]

Welcome to CJ!

I like your S13 too much but I have a question... you want to swap CA to SR and I want to know if you want to reach more power or if you want to do this for another reason.

Another question, sorry... Do you have a complete list of engine mods? I'm interested on IC type and size, exhaust manifold, if you're using the standard ECU modified, piggyback ECU... Thanks a lot!

Again, welcome and thanks to share your knowledge with us :D

[angel200sxmallorca]

Jajja...q bueno Kev en CJ, glad to see you here. I knew Bren last summer when I went to APT and he was doing "some" repairs to the Apex Sky. He showed me his tomei engine for the monster S14....brutal!!!

I hope you have very good results the next year and be careful with the Jez's S13...jejeje.


Traducido:

Encantado de verte por aquí SM. Conocí a Bren el verano pasado cuando estuve en APT y estaban haciendo "algunas" modificaciones en el sky de apex. También me enseñó el motor de tomei q estaban preparando para su monster S14.

Espero q tengas buenos resultados de cara al año q viene y cuidado con el S13 de Jez (es el del video q os he puesto.------de Horsham Developments...en el 2006 ganó con su S13 el campeonato de time attack llevando el CA pero ahora tiene el SR24DET al q se refiere SM).

Lo de cambiar a un motor SR bueno a ver si lo explica él q luego no quiero q me echéis a la hoguera....jajja. Pero no tiene nada q ver con q el CA sea una mierda así q no empecéis q os veo venir con las frases típicas....XDD. Sólo os diré q lo hacen no para una preparación de calle como las q hacemos nosotros pq no vale la pena..ya véis q resultados tan buenos se consiguen viendo el suyo....es más por tema time attack por donde van los tiros...aumento cilindrada, menos lag, más par, etc...no es nada más morboso. ;).

Si alguien quiere saber más del proyecto de jez q pinche aquí:

http://www.sxoc.co.uk/vbb/showthread.php?t=261228

Saludos.

[InOt]

Te has dejado el link Angel!!!! :D

Lo se, lo se que no lo va a cambiar porque sea una mierda, es mas, si el me dice que el CA18 es una mierda porque lo ha comprobado no se lo voy a discutir, mejor preparación que la suya por aqui no hay en un S13, asi que dudo que hable por hablar... estoy seguro que tiene que ver con el tema de poder meter un stroker a 2.4, un turbo más grande y sacar sin demasiado problema más de 500cv lo cual con el CA18 empieza a ser complicado puesto que el cubicaje lo limita...

En fin, que lo explique él mejor :p

[angel200sxmallorca]

Sorry, arreglado. ;)

[InOt]

Thank you!!! :D

[SM@SXOC]

Thanks for all the support, it is appreciated :)

Its a pity there is nothing similar in Spain? You surely must have some sort of sprint/timed/special stage type events you can enter?
If there was I could try and bring Team Apex over to Spain to Visit ;)

Last year Apex sent me over to Sweden to do a race organised by the 200SX Owners Group of Sweden, it was good fun :)

Me doing the Swedish SuperStage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om1bHtra-Do
Drag racing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2cOLVEbXrE

Yak also came over - he has the twin car to mine for the last 2 years, also sponsored by Apex. This year both cars are very similar in spec / mods.

Yaks Vids
http://www.youtube.com/user/yak200

I'll try and list the full spec list .....

1000cc Sard injectors (1000cc RC injectors in Yaks)
Apex Alloy Racing Radiator
Apex Cat-back exhaust.
Apex Engine mounts
Apex FMIC kit
Apex Forged Con Rods
Apex Silenced Frontpipe & Decat
Apex Thermostatic oil cooler
Apex Tubular Manifold (Prototype)
Cometic Metal Headgasket - 1.9mm
Defi Water Temp adapter
Ferrera Double Springs
Ferrera Spring seats
Ferrera Titanium retainers
GT2876R
Greddy Sandwich plate (gauge take off)
K&N Filter
Lightened and Balanced crank
Yellow Painted Rocker Covers
Small Battery
Tomei 270 Cams & Pullys (256 in Yaks)
VEMS ECU + extra's (LC, ALS, SL, EGT. WBO2...)
Walbro fuel pump with Apex Hardwire kit
Wiscoe Forged Pistons

Apex Gearbox mount
Apex Performance Shortshifter
Apex Lightweight Alloy Prop (Not in Yaks)
ATS Carbon 2-way Diff (Skyline Diff in Yaks)
PPG 4 gear Dogbox
PPG Billet mainshaft

Apex Camber Arm (rear)
Apex Coilovers - Gen 2
Apex complete poly bush kit
Apex front lower Strut Brace
Apex Front Strut brace
Apex Rear Strut Brace
Apex solid subframe bushes (Nismo in Yaks)
Apex Stainless steel Steering disk
Apex TC Arm (Front)
Apex Toe Arm (rear)
Hardrace Steering Rack Mounts
S14 5 Stud hubs
Whiteline Anti Roll bars

KSport 356mm Front brakes - 8 pot with PF01 Pads
Z32 BMC
Z32 Rear Brake conversion with Porterfeild RS4 pads (KSport Rears on Yaks)

2 x KSport FIA Harness
60mm boost Gauge (All gauges 52mm in Yaks)
60mm Oil Pressure Gauge
60mm Oil Temp Gauge
60mm Water Temp Gauge
6 point rollcage
Apex seat rails
KSport race seat (Passenger, non-FIA)
Sparco Race Seat (FIA)
Momo Steering wheel boss (OEM in Yaks)
Sparco Steering Wheel (OEM in Yaks)
Stripped interior

Apex Livery
Big Gay Wing
Lexan Door Windows (Not in Yaks)
Lexan Rear 1/4 Windows (Not in Yaks)
Lightweight rear screen (Not in Yaks)
Bodykit - cheap copy of a Vanquish kit bumper/skirts/rear bumper (different in Yaks)
Ccargespeed 50mm wider rear arches
Chargespeed 20mm wider front arches

Rota Torque Drift (Gunmetal) 17" x 9 front ET35 with 10mm spacer, ET12 Rear
Toyo R888 235 front, 255 rear



I'm bound to have missed something


I remember now, about the SR/RB.

I think an RB25 will be too heavy for a circuit car, too much weight in the front. A CA or SR are both quite light, the RB is a LOT heavier. There is also managing the heat of a RB engine in a 200SX. For a street car you can keep it cool, but its a lot harder to sort the cooling in a S chassis. Some people are doing LS2 conversions, which certainly should be interesting but again, maybe too heavy over the front of the car for handling on the limits.

I would like a SR, I do have one that I took out of the S14a, I do think about rebuilding it for 550bhp, as Time Attack is very fast, and I think you need 550-700bhp to be close to the front.

[InOt]

Well!! Many thanks.

I'll follow your project, it seems amazing ;)

[InOt]

Spain is a bad country to modify your car, if you change a hose without using a stock hose you will be a criminal :sm1_143:
But there is another problem... the culture. The people prefer to buy a diesel car, tune up the ECU and then accelerate inside a big black cloud... Diesel power :sleep2:
I hope that we'll change this, performance is the way! :image11:

[Turbin_Powa]

The CA18DET weight 128kg, SR20DET weight 149kg, RB25DET 180kg (aprox).
Can you say what the 30kg of the difference with the SR20 will be a problem with a great setup of suspension?
I ask this because in the future maybe get this engine....
The another question is if the RB25 is to hard to cooler?
What is the reason? poor space?
Thanks SM!! :D

[SM@SXOC]

CA18, plenum, flywheel, alternator, NO MANIFOLD & TURBO. = 150Kg

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/s13faq/enginewt.jpg

SR20, on the same scales, weighed by the same person, but without starter motor (~4kg) = 139Kg

http://media.sxoc.com/contributors/s13faq/sr3.jpg

Nissan Fast says both engines weigh 95Kg bare. That's everything between sump and rocker cover but no manifolds, plenum, turbo, alt, flywheel, steering pump, etc. (not too sure if it includes water pump, ignition)
Flywheel CA 12.3 SR 8.9
Front pulley CA 3.231 SR 2.45
Oil cooler CA 1.55 SR 1.315
Plenum CA 3.4 SR 2.778
Inlet manifold CA 2.081 SR 3.661
A frame etc CA 2.6 SR 0.84
EGR SR 0.63
Alternator CA 5.46 (can't find mounting bracket) SR 7.523
Starter CA 3.392 SR 3.1
Clutch + cover CA 6.63 SR 7.9
engine mounts CA 1.5 SR 1.1
engine plate CA 0.735
CA 42.8 SR 40.2

Totals according to FAST CA 137.8Kg SR 135.2Kg
+ assorted gaskets, hoses, water tubes, hose clamps, nuts and bolts which all add up and still without power steering pump, and A/C.

[InOt]

The problem of using an RB is not only the extra weight... CA is mounted just above the front axis, part of the RB is mounted ahead the front axis and it's a bad think to reach a good chasis configuration. That's only my thinking, I may be wrong.

[InOt]

Al final va a resultar que el CA es mas pesado que el SR :roto2:

[SM@SXOC]

Yes, it is as much the weight distribution as the weight itself that puts me off. I haven't actually driven a RB'd 200SX on the track to know myself how it drives.

[Turbin_Powa]

Yes, it is as much the weight distribution as the weight itself that puts me off. I haven't actually driven a RB'd 200SX on the track to know myself how it drives.

OK, i understand what the option for the RB engine its a handycap the extra weight of the engine :(.

The information of the engine weight i have is from here:

http://www.datsuncr.com/motores-nissan-datsun.html

I think will be wrong the information in this web....

Give a SR20 is the best option, extra power with the stroker kit and big turbo, better aftermarket and similar weight of the CA....
The another option is the CA20 from tomei, but very expensive.....
I think what in the sxoc more people test the RB engines in to a s13, and i think is better option for drift and drag purposes, but for time attack is another think.
Thanks for the info SM :D!!!

[angel200sxmallorca]

Al final va a resultar que el CA es mas pesado que el SR :roto2:

Ya ves toni, yo hace tiempo q aprendí q no tenía q creerme ninguna info de esas de "leyenda" a menos q se pongan los links de donde provenga para corroborarla y poder contrastarla.

[angel200sxmallorca]

Si os parece donde podrían venirse los del equipo de Apex como sugiere SM al igual q fue a la de Suecia es a la kdd nacional de montmelo (supongo q x las fechas q estamos ya sería para el año q viene) ya q ver alguna de sus máquinas en acción en las tandas mezclada con nuestros coches sería brutal. Todo sería hablarlo.

Habrá q comentarlo con synchro a ver q le parece.

[Turbin_Powa]

Si os parece donde podrían venirse los del equipo de Apex como sugiere SM al igual q fue a la de Suecia es a la kdd nacional de montmelo (supongo q x las fechas q estamos ya sería para el año q viene) ya q ver alguna de sus máquinas en acción en las tandas mezclada con nuestros coches sería brutal. Todo sería hablarlo.

Habrá q comentarlo con synchro a ver q le parece.

Hombre, yo no se el presupuesto que tienen, pero el canal de la mancha ida y vuelta son unos 600€ eso sin contar la gasolina y la estancia....que seguro que les encantaria venir y asi promocionarse, pero vamos es un tute guapo ademas de caro.
Synchro no creo que tenga ningun problema en que vengan, de hecho creo que es un puntazo que esta gente acuda a este evento ademas de un orgullo.
Pero bueno, podemos intentarlo.....Angel, azle una invitacion que con mi ingles de cuenca igual no se entera mucho :D
Saludos ;)

[angel200sxmallorca]

Jjeje lo del tunel de la mancha lo tuve q sufrir en mis propias carnes y apoquinar 200lereles sólo por cruzar por obligación ya q a la vuelta de uk perdí el ferry pq pinché y no llegué a tiempo para cogerlo...De todas formas con el ferry era muuucho más barato...yo lo tenía pillado para ida y vuelta y no había color. A la ida lo hice y tarda unos 50min en cruzar. La vuelta como os digo la perdí por pinchar...y encima tuve q apoquinar el túnel...XD

Para los q queráis ir con coche os paso la web del ferry q cogí q es el q usa mayoritariamente la gente desde Bolougne-sur mer y llega a Dover. ;)

http://www.speedferries.com/

PD:mi inglés es bastante malo tmb pero bueno ahora le echo la caña..XD

[angel200sxmallorca]

Thanks for all the support, it is appreciated :)

Its a pity there is nothing similar in Spain? You surely must have some sort of sprint/timed/special stage type events you can enter?
If there was I could try and bring Team Apex over to Spain to Visit ;)

Last year Apex sent me over to Sweden to do a race organised by the 200SX Owners Group of Sweden, it was good fun :)

Every year Clubjapo does a japmeeting at Montmeló F1 track(Barcelona) in august and we race at the track. This year the event will be on 30-31th. It would be great if Apex could be here one year to visit us and race your cars in the track with us, etc...;)

[JoCKeR]

Woww SM here in ClubJapo !! I usually read your project in SOXC forum and see your videos driving in the track, I love your S13 its an inspiration for me and more people i know...I hope than in the future can have something like it :):):) but its dificult here in spain, the culture...find the parts...mechanics...etc !!! Thanks for all the information about your car and others...see you !!

[SM@SXOC]

Thanks Jocker :)

[Blade Runner]

esta muy guapo el bicho, lo suyo seria que le metieran un kit de ensanche para tener mas anchura de vias, un pepino.

[IcedTea]

Muy guapo lo del 200sx, pero ya que estais en todo, hay alguna info del setup, preparación, web o más cosas sobre el subaru ese de tropecientos tatanos??

He encontrado esto (a ver si hay más):
Vehicle

2 door, wide body, WRC-panelled Subaru Impreza GC8
2.4L ZEN spec forged engine built by Whitfield Race Engines
GT40R turbo
EXE-TC Competition Suspension

AET Turbos www.aet-turbos.co.uk
Do-Luck Racing Service www.do-luck.co.uk
Eclipse Motor Bodies www.eclipsemotorbodies.co.uk
EXE-TC Competition Suspension www.exe-tc.co.uk
Hyper-Zero 1 - Time Attack Special Wheel
K-Sport www.k-sport.co.uk
Lateral Performance www.lateralperformance.co.uk
NAB Water and Environment www.n-a-b.co.uk
Pro-Valeting http://www.pro-valeting.co.uk/
RJMS Databse Consultants www.rjms.co.uk
T M Works - Ignition Coils
'Wallis was here'
Whitfield Race Engines http://www.whitfieldraceengines.co.uk/

[Turbin_Powa]

Para que luego digan que K-sport es una mierda, pues muchos de los que compiten en el time attack montan K-Sport, y no es por ahorrar costes...

[DaDo]

Hombre si hablamos de peso entre el CA y el SR... tened en cuenta que aunque haya diferencia de cilindrada el CA lleva culata de hierro y el SR de aluminio... y es una parte pesada del motor, eso puede marcar la diferencia.

[CoNcEpT_RS13]

Hombre si hablamos de peso entre el CA y el SR... tened en cuenta que aunque haya diferencia de cilindrada el CA lleva culata de hierro y el SR de aluminio... y es una parte pesada del motor, eso puede marcar la diferencia.

No me digas q crees q el CA lleva culata de hierro....

[Turbin_Powa]

No me digas q crees q el CA lleva culata de hierro....

Es de carton piedra :D

[CoNcEpT_RS13]

Es de carton piedra :D

O tmb puede ser de aluminio... :)

[InOt]

O tmb puede ser de aluminio... :)

Menos mal que lo has aclarado.

[S13_Palau]

Culta de hierro let me think please!

[hpt_simon]

llevan k sport porke son sponsors, nada mas,

pero no usan sus pastillas ni sus discos.

[skun]

Bueno, resucitando posts del año del...
Me ha dado por mirarme el post de proyecto completo de SM y viendo que comentaba que seguramente sustituia el CA por un SR 2.2, y no un RB25 o 26 por el tema de exeso de peso en el morro y el equilibrado de pesos, me he quedado loco cuando en las ultimas paginas del proyecto y despues de ver que el coche se le pego fuego en pista veo que le va a montar un V8!! tendre que leerme su post detenidamente para entender el porque y comprender donde quedo todo aquel tema del sobrepeso en el morro, pero bueno si alguien sabe el porque ( seguidores del SXOC ) que me lo cuenten y me ahorro de leer 84 paginas en ingles jajaja
P.D. Resucito el post porque me parece interesante lo que ha llegado a hacer este hombre con un CA y porque aun sigue dando caña con su s13 y la va a seguir dando el año que viene y a lo grande! por lo que parece

[SM@SXOC]

Hi again :)

Yes its true I'm going V8 - and yes it is a heavier engine.

The LS2 with T56 Gearbox is around 60Kg heavier than the CA18DET. I'm also fitting a more complex rollcage that will add another 40kg.

I do plan on losing some of the extra weight through more lightweight items.

The V8's weight is also further back in the car than the 6 cyclinder turbo motors 2JZ/RB etc

You can keep an eye on the project on sxoc, or facebook (add Kev Duckworth - there is only 1)

I'm aiming for 500BHP, which in NA tune should be very responsive and help me beat the 700bhp Supra's.

I had a REALLY bad year (got crashed into at round 1 by an evo, was 2nd in RWD at round 2, lost inlet valves at round 3, and burst into flames at round 4 ... so didnt complete the year.

There videos of this year on www.youtube.co.uk/smonkeysxoc (http://www.youtube.co.uk/smonkeysxoc)

Vid of the engine before being taken out of the 2006 Pontiac GTO (400bhp as standard, 400ft/lbs)
YouTube- SM's New Engine

[TSUCHIYA-KUN]

Hi SM!!

Added to facebook mate ;)

It was a pity the incident with your new rebuild engine :)
As I can see, it's very popular to mount V8 engines (you, Ken, Bren from Apex) or Viper engine V10 like Dan :ek::ek::ek::ek:

I will like to see how they response in TA .
Good luck for next Time Attack season.



A los demas foreros, perdon por el idioma, pero supongo q lo entendereis ;)

[JDM MONSTER]

en español mejor...tanto cuesta traducir...? o es que da, mas cache?

este video si que mola...impresiona la cifra del final.

YouTube- Horsham Developments S13 dyno run

[skun]

Hi again :)

Yes its true I'm going V8 - and yes it is a heavier engine.

The LS2 with T56 Gearbox is around 60Kg heavier than the CA18DET. I'm also fitting a more complex rollcage that will add another 40kg.

I do plan on losing some of the extra weight through more lightweight items.

The V8's weight is also further back in the car than the 6 cyclinder turbo motors 2JZ/RB etc

You can keep an eye on the project on sxoc, or facebook (add Kev Duckworth - there is only 1)

I'm aiming for 500BHP, which in NA tune should be very responsive and help me beat the 700bhp Supra's.

I had a REALLY bad year (got crashed into at round 1 by an evo, was 2nd in RWD at round 2, lost inlet valves at round 3, and burst into flames at round 4 ... so didnt complete the year.

There videos of this year on www.youtube.co.uk/smonkeysxoc (http://www.youtube.co.uk/smonkeysxoc)

Vid of the engine before being taken out of the 2006 Pontiac GTO (400bhp as standard, 400ft/lbs)

Gracias por tu respuesta SM!!
Ahora entiendo porque un American V8 y no un JZ o RB Japones :) yo no sabia que el reparto de pesos con el V8 es mas equilibrado.

He visto tus videos y tu trayectoria porque sigo tu proyecto en el sxoc y ha sido una lastima lo del choque y luego lo del incendio del coche.
Aunque lo del incendio va a quedar muy bien arreglado con ese V8!! :D suena muy bien el motor y espero que te de tan buenos o mejores resultados que el CA.
Suerte con lo del swap! y estare a tento a tus avances ;)


Hi SM and thanks for your response!
Now I understand why an American V8 and not a Japanese RB or JZ I didn´t know that the weight distribution with the V8 is more balanced.

I've seen your videos and your avances because I keep your project on the sxoc and it was a pity about the crash and then fire the car.
Although the fire is going to be very well repaired with the V8!! :D the engine sounds great and I hope to give you as good or better than the CA.
Luck with the swap! and I will be very attentive to your progress ;)

[JDM MONSTER]

la educacion brilla x su ausencia...:reglaslv2:

[skun]

en español mejor...tanto cuesta traducir...? o es que da, mas cache?
No problem hombre ;)

Hi again :)

Yes its true I'm going V8 - and yes it is a heavier engine.

The LS2 with T56 Gearbox is around 60Kg heavier than the CA18DET. I'm also fitting a more complex rollcage that will add another 40kg.

I do plan on losing some of the extra weight through more lightweight items.

The V8's weight is also further back in the car than the 6 cyclinder turbo motors 2JZ/RB etc

You can keep an eye on the project on sxoc, or facebook (add Kev Duckworth - there is only 1)

I'm aiming for 500BHP, which in NA tune should be very responsive and help me beat the 700bhp Supra's.

I had a REALLY bad year (got crashed into at round 1 by an evo, was 2nd in RWD at round 2, lost inlet valves at round 3, and burst into flames at round 4 ... so didnt complete the year.

There videos of this year on www.youtube.co.uk/smonkeysxoc (http://www.youtube.co.uk/smonkeysxoc)

Vid of the engine before being taken out of the 2006 Pontiac GTO (400bhp as standard, 400ft/lbs)

Hola de nuevo:)

Sí, es verdad que voy V8 - y sí se trata de un motor más pesado.

El LS2 con T56 Caja de cambios es de alrededor de 60 kg más pesado que el CA18DET. Soy también el ajuste de una rollcage más complejo que añadir otro de 40 kg.

Sí pienso que va a perder algo de peso extra a través de elementos más ligeros.

El peso del V8 es también más atrás en el coche de los 6 motores turbo cyclinder 2JZ/RB etc

Usted puede mantener un ojo en el proyecto de sxoc o Facebook (añadir Kev Duckworth - sólo hay 1)

Soy objetivo de 500bhp, que en sintonía NA debe ser muy sensible y me ayude a vencer a los 700bhp Supra.

Tuve un año muy malo (se estrelló contra en la 1 ª vuelta por un Evo, fue 2 º en RWD en la ronda 2, perdió válvulas de admisión en la ronda 3, y estalló en llamas en la ronda 4 ... así que aún no ha terminar el año.

Hay videos de este año en [URL = "http://www.youtube.co.uk/smonkeysxoc"] www.youtube.co.uk / smonkeysxoc [/ URL]

Vid del motor antes de ser sacado del 2006 Pontiac GTO (400bhp como estándar, 400ft/lbs)

Hi SM!!

Added to facebook mate ;)

It was a pity the incident with your new rebuild engine :)
As I can see, it's very popular to mount V8 engines (you, Ken, Bren from Apex) or Viper engine V10 like Dan :ek::ek::ek::ek:

I will like to see how they response in TA .
Good luck for next Time Attack season.



A los demas foreros, perdon por el idioma, pero supongo q lo entendereis ;)
Hola SM!!

Añadido a Facebook ;)

Fue una lástima el incidente con tu nuevo motor reconstruido :)
Como puedo ver, es muy popular montar motores V8 (tú, Ken, Bren de Apex) o motor Viper V10 como Dan :ek::ek::ek::ek:

Me gustaría ver cómo responde en el T.A.
Buena suerte para la próxima temporada de Time Attack.

[elz]

la educacion brilla x su ausencia...:reglaslv2:

pues yo creo que no tiene nada que ver con la educacion...

igual es porque no lo entiendes y te da por culo que escriban en ingles x)

[JDM MONSTER]

pues yo creo que no tiene nada que ver con la educacion...

igual es porque no lo entiendes y te da por culo que escriban en ingles x)

pues no... entiendo el ingles perfectamente, de hecho entro en muchos foros ingleses...

pero es incomodo para la gente de este foro, ahi me incluyo yo, es un foro de habla hispana.

SKUN...Ahi le has dado asi si se hacen las cosas...

x cierto un placer hablar x privado.

[SM@SXOC]

Sorry for not writing in Spanish, I will try to go and see my friend from Gibralter, who will help me translate and answer in Spanish.

I can pick up the point of most posts by picking out the odd word I know, but dont know enough to write without help.

Skun - thanks for translating what I wrote.

The weight distribution is better because the engine is only 4 cylinders long, so more of it is behind the front axel, the jap 6 cylinder turbo engines have more weight further forward. Also an NA car does not have the intercooler way out in front, it may only be 7kg but its 1 meter forward of the axle. The engine itself is quite light, most of the extra weight is in the gearbox, which is very central in the car.

Brens S14/LS2 I think was 56/44 weight distribution ... just checked

Weight distribution:
56.7% front
43.3% rear

I believe thats the same as a standard car. We havent fitted the carbon bonnet yet either, thats just landed.

[skun]

Sorry for not writing in Spanish, I will try to go and see my friend from Gibralter, who will help me translate and answer in Spanish.

I can pick up the point of most posts by picking out the odd word I know, but dont know enough to write without help.

Skun - thanks for translating what I wrote.

The weight distribution is better because the engine is only 4 cylinders long, so more of it is behind the front axel, the jap 6 cylinder turbo engines have more weight further forward. Also an NA car does not have the intercooler way out in front, it may only be 7kg but its 1 meter forward of the axle. The engine itself is quite light, most of the extra weight is in the gearbox, which is very central in the car.

Brens S14/LS2 I think was 56/44 weight distribution ... just checked

Lo siento por no escribir en español, voy a tratar de ir a ver a mi amigo de Gibraltar, que me ayudará a traducir y contestar en español.

Puedo coger el punto de la mayoría de los mensajes de escoger las palabras sueltas lo sé, pero no sé lo suficiente como para escribir sin ayuda.

Skun - gracias por la traducción de lo que escribí.

La distribución del peso es mejor porque el motor solo tiene 4 cilindros de longitud, por lo que está mas atras del eje delantero, los motores japos de 6 cilindros turbo tienen más peso delante. También un coche de NA no tiene el intercooler por delante, puede ser solo 7kg pero 1 metro por delante del eje. El motor en sí es bastante ligero, la mayor parte del peso extra esta en la caja de cambios, que es muy central en el coche.

Brens S14/LS2 creo que fue la distribución de peso 56/44 ... lo acaba de comprobar

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De nada SM ;)
No te preocupes, yo ire traduciendo lo que tu escribas asi todos aqui podemos aprender de tu experiencia :)

Your mellcome SM ;)
Don´t worry, I'm going to translate what you write here so everyone can learn from your experience :)
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Esperamos ansiosos ver montado ese motor en tu s13 y ver como se comporta, como comentaba tsuchiya-kun :)

We wait anxious to see that engine mounted on your s13 and see how it behaves, as tsuchiya-kun commented.
Regards SM!

[SM@SXOC]

Hola

I can usually get my sponsors to pay for a trip in Europe to race, which is nice. A couple of years ago I went to Sweden .

I have mailed timeattack.es to see if I could get an entry into a round next year, if the dates allow.

Does anyone know which circuits are used and are any in the North near the ferry?

Gracias

De nada SM ;)
No te preocupes, yo ire traduciendo lo que tu escribas asi todos aqui podemos aprender de tu experiencia :)

Your mellcome SM ;)
Don´t worry, I'm going to translate what you write here so everyone can learn from your experience :)
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Esperamos ansiosos ver montado ese motor en tu s13 y ver como se comporta, como comentaba tsuchiya-kun :)

We wait anxious to see that engine mounted on your s13 and see how it behaves, as tsuchiya-kun commented.
Regards SM!

[Admin]

Hola

I can usually get my sponsors to pay for a trip in Europe to race, which is nice. A couple of years ago I went to Sweden .

I have mailed timeattack.es to see if I could get an entry into a round next year, if the dates allow.

Does anyone know which circuits are used and are any in the North near the ferry?

Gracias

Hi Kev,

I'm just answering you through mail right now. Still working on next year dates, but most probably you'll have to drive quite a few kms because there are not many track options around there.

I'll let you know dates as soon as possible.

Alberto

[SM@SXOC]

Thanks, I can get almost anywhere. A few friends went drifting in Portugal, 10 hours drive from the ferry so anything is possible but every 100km's from the port adds costs to the trip. I went to Sweden on a £500 from my sponsors all in which just about paid for the ferry + fuel, and I paid the rest.
Summer Ferry to Spain is around £600 with trailer.

[skun]

Hi Kev,

I'm just answering you through mail right now. Still working on next year dates, but most probably you'll have to drive quite a few kms because there are not many track options around there.

I'll let you know dates as soon as possible.

Alberto

Podria venir al motorshow que se hace en Barcelona o a las Drifting/Time Attack series que se hacen por la peninsula por ejemplo...
Pero si, como dice Alberto, abra que informarse de los eventos mas interesantes que hayan asi el viaje merece la pena para todo el equipo :)

It may come to the motorshow is done in Barcelona or Drifting / Time Attack series taking place in the peninsula, for example,
But if, as Albert says, open to find out the most interesting events that have well worth the trip for the whole team :)